Voice of the Lord - PO 2012
You know I want to take you to the tenth chapter of Revelation. I want to refresh your memory of what’s written in chapter 9. The sixth trumpet was sounded and four bound angels which means they were bad, were released at the river Euphrates. And when the swarmers swarm, they’re there.
And it’s our duty and obligation to our Father to pay close attention and recognize whats going down at what time. So let’s pick it up if we may with those thoughts in mind maybe we better take verse 18 to know what to expect from the swarm and those four bound angels.
Rev 9:18 By these three were a third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone which issued out of their mouths.
In other words their blowing smoke. Smoke, hot air won't hurt you necessary if you’re back far enough. In other words they lie to people, they mislead people. And they do it how? In a religious sense and that deceives many, many people.
Now with a Word of Wisdom lets pick up the 10th chapter lets go a little deeper into this verse 1.
Rev 10:1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow [was] upon his head, (meaning royalty) and his face [was] as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
Rev 10:2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and [his] left [foot] on the earth,
That simply means He had power and control over both the earth and waters. And our Father does, this not being our Father but certainly a representative of His.
Rev 10:3 And cried with a loud voice, as [when] a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
What are these seven thunders? What a mystery what a wonder well let’s see if we can find out. Verse 4.
Rev 10:4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, (I mean they communicated , you got it? It was a voice)I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
Don't you put them down. Now I want you to bear something in mind, what did he have? A little book he gave him the book. He said don't write it down exact is what it means but it is something we are going to understand when the time is right. And when we are suppose to know we will understand. And so it is verse 5.
Rev 10:5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
Praying to God, looking to God.
Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
In other words we came right up to the end. So it behooves one to understand. Lets back up for a second to chapter 4 of this great book of Revelation. hat does it say there in Revelation chapter 4 verse 5.? Let me read it to you.
Rev 4:5And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and [there were] seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
Now what are the spirits of God and what are those seven thunders the voices? Well we know what lightning is. Lightning preceeds thunder. Skip on over to chapter 5 verse 12 and lets pick it up on the Spirit of God just a little bit here.
Rev 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power,(one) and riches(two), and wisdom(three), and strength(four), and honour(five), and glory(six), and blessing. (seven)
The Spirits of God. Well how can we anchor this? Well you know God always fortells His prophets. Its written, He doesn't do anything without letting you know what’s about to transpire. But what you need to know, what is the voice of God? How can we tell?
Psalms 29 lets go there and see if we can discern a little more.
Psalms 29 and what a beautiful Psalm it is a Psalm of David.
Psa 29:1[[A Psalm of David.]] Give unto the LORD, O ye mighty, give unto the LORD glory and strength.
There's two of the attributes in that first verse. Glory and strength.
Psa 29:2Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name; worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness.
That's righteousness
Psa 29:3 The voice of the LORD(here you are that's why we came here) [is] upon the waters: the God of glory thundereth: the LORD [is] upon many waters.
When God speaks it is recorded as thunder. And you can take that, why? The order has been given thunder follows that and if you wait too long after the thunder you miss the boat. OK? Because you are supposed to have the prophecy to know and understand and then the Truth prevails and the Truth comes forward. Verse 4
Psa 29:4 The voice of the LORD [is] powerful;(there's the power) the voice of the LORD [is] full of majesty.
It gives you knowledge and wisdom when you listen to that voice.
Psa 29:5 The voice of the LORD breaketh the cedars; yea, the LORD breaketh the cedars of Lebanon.
The largest cedars in the world of that type and so plentiful. Always used to symbolic represent our people even. Verse 6
Psa 29:6 He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion (that's mount
Hermon which is to say the breastplate)like a young unicorn. There's no such thing as a unicorn its wild ox.
Psa 29:7 The voice of the LORD divideth the flames of fire.
I want you to absorb that and I want you to know that divideth means control so let’s read it that way. “The voice of the LORD controls the flames of fire.”
He is a consuming fire. Why? Cause He loves His children, all of them that follow them especially. Verse 8
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Psa 29:8 The voice of the LORD shaketh the wilderness; the LORD shaketh the wilderness of Kadesh.
That's the Holy, even the Holy wilderness, He shakes it. He is in control. I don't know have you even stood on the ground when the thunder and Lightning bolt hit real close to you and felt the ground shake? He shakes things, His can His voice shakes things and that is an analogy to let you know exactly what we are talking about here.
Verse 9
Psa 29:9 The voice of the LORD maketh the hinds to calve, (He created nature and birth) and discovereth the forests: and in his temple doth every one speak of [his] glory.
Glory being another attribute of the Spirit of the Living God.
Psa 29:10 The LORD sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD sitteth King for ever.
Not just a little while friend, you’re in a service that in Gods service that is eternal. You’re not part time, you’re not just happening by just a flash its threw out eternity.
Verse 11 to complete.
Psa 29:11 The LORD will give strength (that's another one of the attributes, I hope you kept count) unto his people; the LORD will bless his people with peace.
So do you need strength? That's where you get it. Do you need peace, peace of mind? That's where you get it from our heavenly Father through His Word. And to understand that Word whereby you (grasp?) the simplicity whereby Christ teaches.
Now with those attributes and the Voice of God, that thundering command if you’re wise enough to pick from His Word what the thunders mean. Because they are sealed except to God's Elect. So turn with me if you will back to the New Testament the book of Saint John chapter 12.
Saint John chapter 12. I will call you attention to verse 1 for a time sequence.
John 12:1Then Jesus six days before the passover (that time is important, log it in your mind. Six days before PO this message came that is to say for verse 12. What does verse 12 say? On the next day, where is the next day? 5 days before PO just like the 5 stones that David picked up. 5 days before PO these events transpire, the prophesy that Christ gives us. Gives to the ears of His Election)
Skip to verse 23 for me and think and absorb the Spirit and the Voice of the Living God.
Verse 23
John 12:23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.
One of the attributes
John 12:24 Verily, verily (you can count on it, truly, truly), I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
Christ knew if He did not go through the Crucifixion for you whereby you have salvation from that it would bring many in Truth to the very feet of the cross with Him, loving Him, following Him. And naturally as it was at that Passover He was the crucified lamb.
Verse 25
John 12:25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.
In other word if you only look forward to what you can gain in this world you are in a heap of hurt. But if you look to Him, if you look to the cross. If you look to many your brethren that follow Him and we see the many membered body of Christ.
Verse 26
John 12:26 If any man serve me, let him follow me;(He set the example) and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will [my] Father honour.
Honour another one of the attributes of the Voice of God. And He will honour when you do your best. None of us are perfect, we all slip sometimes. Verse 27
John 12:27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.
In other words I wouldn’t change anything Christ is saying. I am doing this for the children. Emanuel God with us doing it for you so your sins can be washed away. Can be cleansed and can have that peace of mind which comes from His Word which is eternal. Verse 28 And He continues.
John 12:28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, [saying], I have both glorified [it], and will glorify [it] again.
Its interesting that you should make note of that word again. That's a double header there. And naturally it comes at the second Advent, and the price He paid on that cross.
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Verse 29, I am sorry verse 28
John 12:28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, [saying], I have both glorified [it], and will glorify [it] again.
And naturally that Voice from heaven was what? Verse 29
John 12:29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard [it], said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.
One of the thunders that's issued that you should know and is very important in your life today. 5 days before Passover, verse 30 listen carefully.
John 12:30 Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
And I say today for your sakes 5 days before Passover.
John 12:31 Now (what does this now mean? Its 5 days before Passover) is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Well who is the prince of this world? It’s the anti-christ of course. 5 days before Passover in the year it transpires, he will be cast out.
You are given a beautiful time there, the Voice of God threw the thunders that were sealed. But the ears and mind of the Elect OPENED whereby they can hear and understand. You see the beauty in which our Father teaches us leaving nothing unturned telling us beforehand of events that transpire so we are servants. Because if a servant knows and understands and is aware, they will serve threw their faith and love of Almighty God. Verse 32
John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me.
This signifying that He should die death of course, and that's what brought it forth. But He made that note that special thunder from heaven on that day, and that time, for the ears of them that are suppose to hear and understand. To know what that thunder meant. 5 days before Passover Satan the prince of the air was case out onto the earth. Will be hat is to say.
Now that should remind you of a scripture. It should be in the book of Luke and it should be starting your mind as Gods Elect you remember. That's Luke 10 lets go there and pick it up at verse 17. First I want to tell you whats happening here in case you forget. He has sent out the disciples given them power as He always gives His servants power. Did you hear what I said? He always gives His servants power over the enemy, over evil spirits and over anything that would come against His children.
And they returned having known that it was the Lord Jesus Christ that give them that authority. They still say in verse 17.
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Luke10:17And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
Don't ever forget that. There is power in the name of the Lord. Now verse 18
Luke 10:18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Now wait a minute it didn't say thunder. What follows lightning? Thunder, this is that time when Satan falls. He is telling you, He said you have power over evil spirits now I am going to give you power over him that comes. 5 days before Passover most likely. And that way you will know and understand that in Christ name the true Christ you have power even over the false one. So then He continues then. Verse 19
Luke 10:19Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
You can believe that. You know that so many people by questions sent in they fear that moment. You don't have too. Nothing by any means in your faith in making that stand against the false one. Nothing can hurt you. Your Father looks after His own. He stands, He controls the Fire! He controls the water. He controls all things and especially when the false one is here. He will be in control utilizing His people.
Luke 10:20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
You know what? You’re in the book of Life it means written even before the foundation of this world as Gods Election. Written there, that's what you ought to be thankful for that you made the stand against him even in the 1st earth age. Don't let that throw you it’s a fact. Always judge spiritually by spiritual facts. That's pretty well documented.
Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, (what did He say? Rejoice because He saw Satan fall upon us? What did He say?)I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent,(They haven't got a clue) and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
And of course those babes were that final generation that would live as God's Election and see that Truth and that knowledge would flow over the buds of their minds to stand against this one having power and authority. To not fear but to conqueror the devices of the wicked one.
Luke 10:22All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and [he] to whom the Son will reveal [him].
I don't know He will reveal Him to you if you will listen. If you pay attention to His teachings, if you listen to the Voice of the Lord and absorb it. He is not going to leave you hanging out somewhere not knowing what comes next. He's going to share with you. Verse 23
Luke 10:23 And he turned him unto [his] disciples, and said privately, Blessed [are] the eyes which see the things that ye see:
and I will say that again to you today. “Blessed are the eyes which which you see today”. Because they are many that are so very wise, got all kind of titles behind their names DDD and DD this and BS that. But they haven't got a clue what’s going down. Do you know why? In simplicity they have not studied the Word of God. They do not understand the Voice of God whereby they can see and understand. 24.
Luke 10:24 For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen [them]; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard [them].
Well listen they wanted that do you understand that even the prophets wanted to live in this generation in which you live. In which He utilizes the Voice of God, the thunders sealed, the little book if you’ll dig you’ll know what the thunders are. And one of the thunders announces the appearance of the false one and you’re not caught off guard. hat is very important. Always be prepared and you are ready for battle spiritually speaking.
Now lets return back to the great book of Revelation chapter 16. Revelation chapter 16 verse 12.
The Voice of the Lord. I want to say one thing in the 10th chapter we began reading about the seals. You were still under the power of the sixth trump. You understand that? Because naturally in the 6th trumpet what happens? Satan is cast out. You just read from the Voice of the Lord. Probably how that will come to pass. Because it is specifically recorded 6 days down to 5 and boom. Chapter 16 verse 12.
Having been under still the sign of the 6th trump, not the 7th but the 6th we read verse 12 of Rev 16 the 6th vial of course.
Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates;(that's the one we are watching today even) and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
The swarming and dislodging and Muslim brotherhood is taking over and you know something? Most people don't have a clue what the brotherhood is. The four demonics turned loose and they are operating full time. Verse 13.
Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs (they weren't frogs, it said like frogs meaning kinda gross)[come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Now you know what is said by Satan, does that frighten you? It shouldn't we just read we have power over those things. In the name of what? Christ of course! So frogs don't bother you, Satan's words don't bother you because you are a child of the Living God and you understand the Voice of your Lord. And the Voice of your Lord you will follow. Why? You love Him because of the price He paid for you that you can be what you are a loved child of God. That's priceless, that brings peace of mind and that bring understanding. 14
Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, [which] go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
And its coming that would be the 7th trump when the 7th vial is poured out. He'll do most of that fighting but we lead up to it. And so it is, one more verse to complete this lecture.
Rev 16:15Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed [is] he that watcheth, (are you watching? Are you studying? Are you watching the times, watching the thunders) and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Your righteous acts of watching weave the fine linen that you wear as robes in the heavenly body.
How precious our Father's Word is, the Voice of the Lord and the Voice of the Lord is mighty. You know this is kinda a short lecture but a lot in it if you have eyes to see and if you have ears to hear. We learn from Gods Word 6 days, 5 days bingo!
Something we are suppose to watch very closely. Why? He told you its time. That is the time. Now what year will that happen in? That we don't know but because it is revealed to us this day along with the Euphrates and the swarmers then we know wonderful and know this even the prophets wanted to know what you know today
Something we are suppose to watch very closely. Why? He told you its time. That is the time. Now what year will that happen in? That we don't know but because it is revealed to us this day along with the Euphrates and the swarmers then we know we are getting pretty close. We are counting times certainly so there you have the Voice of the Lord. What is it? I think you can absorb that its beautiful, it’s wonderful and know this even the prophets wanted to know what you know today.
Carol Swanson King - Notes
Saturday, April 7, 2012
Wednesday, March 14, 2012
JIM DUNLAP'S INTERVIEW ON THE ELECT
The Elect
By Debby Tertocha and Jim Dunlap in Shepherd's Corner · Edit Doc
A little over 10 years ago, I partook in this interview on a live on-air radio broadcast on a radio station in Boston. This is the transcript. All honor, praise and glory go to our Heavenly Father.
Q. Jim, in telling us about the elect, let's start from the very beginning. Who are the elect and where did they come from?
A. God has a chosen people who are predestined. These chosen people are known as "the elect". God did not arbitrarily decide who would be His Elect and who would not be. God is righteous, not arbitrary. The Elect earned this position during the 1st Earth Age, 1/3 of the angels followed after Satan in Satan's rebellion against God, and this is why God had to destroy that 1st Earth Age. The Elect were angels that stood against Satan in the 1st earth age. These angels are still required to come to this earth in a flesh body born of woman without any recollection of the 1st earth age. The difference is, these souls have already been judged and will not be judged again. For this reason, they are referred to in the Bible as God's Elect - those who were chosen from before the foundations of the earth.
Q. What are the Scriptures in the Bible that refer to the Elect?
A. When referring to God's Elect, the Word says, "According as He has chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love: having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself." (Eph 1:4-5). "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ." (Eph. 1:11-12). The Elect are permitted some things. Being sealed can come in many levels (3). It is not some mark on you, it is in your mind. God's word is powerful if you are sealed. Don't disappoint Him. See Eph. 4:29-32. Be a comfort. Don't upset people. A good way to live even in your own family. There are times to win an argument and a time to lose an argument. Sometimes you're a winner if you lose temporarily. Keep quiet if it is something that doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Stick to the main subject. Satan loves people to argue over nonsense.
The Bible says the Elect have a mission for God. And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are called according to His purpose (Rom. 8:28). Ultimately, God will make sure you get on the right train. He will intercede in your life. God has His hand on His Children more than you might think! "You have not chosen Me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that you should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever you shall ask of the Father in My name, He may give it you." (John 15:16). That's the name of the game. The Elect are given power from God to execute His purpose for them. If God be for us, who can be against us? (Rom. 8:31). Always protect your credibility. Use common sense. That's wisdom. God uses who He will. See Matt. 24:6,24.
God's Elect are called to take the Word to those with free will, in order to spread the mysteries revealed to them about Christ and the redemption of mankind. In Ephesians 3:9, the apostle Paul talks about the mysteries of God. What Paul is referring to is the mystery of the 3 earth ages concerning the overthrow of Satan and the redemption of mankind. Paul is revealing these mysteries so that others [the Gentiles] might understand and be fellow heirs and of the same body and partakers of His promise in Christ (Eph. 3:6).
Q. How do we know that our souls existed prior to this present Earth Age?
A. We know because the Bible tells us God foreknew us. "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren." (Rom. 8:29). God could have only previously known us in an age prior to the present age. Because of faithfulness and obedience of these angels in the 1st Earth Age, God made them His Elect. These are His first-fruits. If you have ever wondered why some people seem to be so fortunate while others suffer so dearly, it is not because God arbitrarily decided who would or who would not be blessed. Our fate was determined by the degree of our love and loyalty to God in the 1st Earth Age. Similarly, Satan also has an election.
Q. How do we know our souls pre-existed?
A. Evidence of the existence of the soul prior to its occupation in the flesh body is found in Jeremiah. "Before I formed you in the belly I knew you; and before you camest forth out of the womb I sanctified you, and I ordained you a prophet unto the nations." (Jer. 1:5). How could God have known Jeremiah before he was formed in the womb unless Jeremiah's soul had been in existence before it was placed in his flesh body? Jeremiah's soul, as did your soul, was created by God and pre-existed during the 1st Earth Age.
Q. This sounds very similar to reincarnation. Are you talking about reincarnation?
A. Absolutely not. This is different from the concept of reincarnation, for reincarnation teaches that your soul could come back in the body of an animal, or an insect, or that it could have pre-existed in several different flesh bodies. Furthermore, reincarnation has nothing to do with the redemption of the soul. During the Millennium, we will be in an immortal, incorruptible angelic body that will live on this earth for 1000 years during the Millennium reign of Christ. By the same token also, God is not going to ask us to do anything that He is unwilling to do Himself. Therefore, God Himself came to this earth in a flesh body, known as Jesus. After Jesus was crucified, He arose from the dead. In other-words, His Spirit returned to its Spiritual body, just as your spirit will return to its spiritual body when you die.
Q. What does it mean to be pre-destined?
A. What this means is that the Elect basically do not have free will. Everyone other that the elect have the freedom to chose God as their Father or Satan as their father. God's Elect don't have the choice because they already made that choice. They chose to stand up against Satan in the 1st Earth Age. Therefore, they have already been judged or justified and will not be judged again.
Q. Are there any Scriptures to back up this view that the elect have been already judged?
A. Yes. In Romans, the Scripture tells us the elect have already been justified, and therefore will be spared from having to make the decision a 2nd time. "Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified." (Rom. 8:30). The elect have already been justified by standing up against Satan. Can-Do types!!! They have already been judged and will not be judged again come Judgment Day at the end of the Millennium.
Q. So the elect are "called". Can you give us some examples from the Scriptures of those who are "called"?
A. Yes. The elect are those who are called "according to His purpose" or called to do the Lord's work. God calls out His Elect from the rest of His creation. Jeremiah, the apostle Paul, and Jesus' disciples were all called. Jesus simply called His disciples and they came. Jonah is a prime example of one of God's Elect that did not have free will. Jonah refused to do what God wanted him to do by fleeing in a ship from the area where God wanted him to go. Therefore, God had a whale swallow Jonah until Jonah was willing to do what God wanted him to do. If Jonah had free will, God would not have made him go to Nineveh. Those other than the elect have free will, that is, freedom to choose whether to follow after God of fallow after Satan, because they have yet to prove their loyalty to God.
Q. How many of God's Elect are there?
A. The Scriptures tell us that God has reserved 7000 men that have not bowed their knee to Baal. This is found in 1 Kings 19:18 and Romans 11:4: "But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal." This is prophetic, it has not yet come to pass. We will not bow to antichrist. These are known as the "very elect" as found in Matt. 24:24. "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.". These are teachers, preachers, and "reverends". If you are still in the flesh, he's antichrist, a fake, Because when the true Christ returns, we ALL are turned into our spiritual bodies.
Q. Are these different than the 144,000 who I believe are also part of the elect, is that correct?
A. Yes. The 144,000 are part of the elect but they are not the very elect. The very elect have a special work to do for our Father in the end time.
Q. What is the elect's role in the end time?
A. Satan has been trying to foil God's plan for the salvation of mankind from the beginning but without success. But Satan's fate was sealed when Jesus was crucified, and he is a defeated foe, and his efforts to thwart God's plan shall fail. Satan's last effort shall be in this end time when he sets himself up in the Temple of God claiming to be God "and does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men deceiving the very elect if possible." The elect are the only ones who are not deceived by the antichrist, and because they do not worship the antichrist, they will be delivered up before the antichrist during the antichrist's reign. In this reward, the elect have a very important role to perform for our Father during the antichrist's reign on this earth, for the Scriptures tell us that they will be "delivered up" for a testimony against Satan. "But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them. And the gospel must first be published among all nations. But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Spirit." (Mark 13:11-13). When the Elect are delivered up, they are not suppose to pre-meditate what they will say, for the Holy Spirit will speak through them. Before Christ's return, we just read that the gospel will be published among all nations because they will be speaking not in an unknown tongue, but the voice of many waters, which is the voice of our Father, that everyone will understand in their own language.
Q. Is there any chance that the elect will blow it during this time?
A. There is a chance, but it is highly unlikely. There is only 1 sin that is unforgivable, and that unforgivable sin can only be committed by the elect. That sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. In Luke 12:10-12, the Scriptures read, "And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Spirit it shall not be forgiven. And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say: For the Holy Spirit shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say." Should one of the elect be delivered up before the synagogues of Satan and refuse at all to let the Holy Spirit speak through them, they would be committing blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which will be unforgivable. All other sins can be forgiven except this one. This is the hour of Temptation. We do not find Satan tempting. We find him an abomination! Pentecost tongue spoken at this time only!!! Satan = Death.
Q. When the elect are delivered up and the Holy Spirit begins speaking through them, what happens then?
A. If you can imagine the elect being on trial and all of the scripture lawyers questioning them about the denial of their king, this event will no doubt be broadcast on satellite for all the world to watch. When all of the people in the world hear the Lord speaking though His Elect, the seeds that have been planted in their minds by the elect will sprout, and they will come out of deception. These people who come out of deception are known as the 144,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel.
Q. Is this an exact number?
A. No. The Greek for thousand is khil-ee-as (5505 in the Strongs Concordance), and means "thousands", it is a plural number. There is also a Scripture in Revelation that gives a witness to the fact that there will be more than just 144,000 individuals that are redeemed from the earth. Rev. 5:8-11 reads, "And when He had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. And they sung a new song, saying, "Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for You were slain, and hast redeemed us to God by Your blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth." And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; " Again, this plural word is chillias, the same word used when referring to the 144,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel.
Q. What role do the elect have in the Millennium?
A. The Bible tells us that the only ones who do not follow Satan during the reign of antichrist in the end time are God's Elect. This does not mean that the rest of mankind will be destroyed in the lake of fire. No one will be sentenced to the 2nd death (death of the soul) until the end of Christ's Millennial reign, and the only ones sentenced to die will be those who choose to follow after Satan. However, the only ones allowed in God's Kingdom when it returns to earth during the Millennium are those who did not follow Satan during his rule in this earth age. Satan's delusions will be so strong that even the elect would be deceived if possible. Because they already have been justified, the elect cannot be deceived, and therefore will not be deceived by the antichrist when he comes.
Q. Will the elect have special privileges during the Millennium?
A. The elect are the only ones allowed into God's Kingdom during the Millennium. However, this does not mean that everyone else will not make it into heaven. Everyone else will be in heaven because heaven is here on earth along with God's Kingdom. Those other than the elect will reside in angelic bodies outside of God's Kingdom here on earth. During the Millennium, the elect will receive God's Word directly from God, and will be responsible for taking the Word to those outside of the Kingdom of God who have not had a chance to hear the truth. Those who receive the Word from the elect will then have the opportunity to choose between God or Satan at the end of the Millennium when Satan is loosed for a short season. Those who choose God over Satan will be spared from having their souls destroyed, and then become part of God's Kingdom and will be given eternal life. This is to say that they will be given an immortal soul along with their angelic body. Those who choose to follow Satan will be destroyed along with Satan in the lake of fire on Judgment Day. Judgment Day occurs at the conclusion of the 1000 year Millennium, which is the conclusion of this earth age. Following Judgment Day, the 3rd earth age and and the rest of eternity begin.
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By Debby Tertocha and Jim Dunlap in Shepherd's Corner · Edit Doc
A little over 10 years ago, I partook in this interview on a live on-air radio broadcast on a radio station in Boston. This is the transcript. All honor, praise and glory go to our Heavenly Father.
Q. Jim, in telling us about the elect, let's start from the very beginning. Who are the elect and where did they come from?
A. God has a chosen people who are predestined. These chosen people are known as "the elect". God did not arbitrarily decide who would be His Elect and who would not be. God is righteous, not arbitrary. The Elect earned this position during the 1st Earth Age, 1/3 of the angels followed after Satan in Satan's rebellion against God, and this is why God had to destroy that 1st Earth Age. The Elect were angels that stood against Satan in the 1st earth age. These angels are still required to come to this earth in a flesh body born of woman without any recollection of the 1st earth age. The difference is, these souls have already been judged and will not be judged again. For this reason, they are referred to in the Bible as God's Elect - those who were chosen from before the foundations of the earth.
Q. What are the Scriptures in the Bible that refer to the Elect?
A. When referring to God's Elect, the Word says, "According as He has chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love: having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself." (Eph 1:4-5). "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ." (Eph. 1:11-12). The Elect are permitted some things. Being sealed can come in many levels (3). It is not some mark on you, it is in your mind. God's word is powerful if you are sealed. Don't disappoint Him. See Eph. 4:29-32. Be a comfort. Don't upset people. A good way to live even in your own family. There are times to win an argument and a time to lose an argument. Sometimes you're a winner if you lose temporarily. Keep quiet if it is something that doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Stick to the main subject. Satan loves people to argue over nonsense.
The Bible says the Elect have a mission for God. And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are called according to His purpose (Rom. 8:28). Ultimately, God will make sure you get on the right train. He will intercede in your life. God has His hand on His Children more than you might think! "You have not chosen Me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that you should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever you shall ask of the Father in My name, He may give it you." (John 15:16). That's the name of the game. The Elect are given power from God to execute His purpose for them. If God be for us, who can be against us? (Rom. 8:31). Always protect your credibility. Use common sense. That's wisdom. God uses who He will. See Matt. 24:6,24.
God's Elect are called to take the Word to those with free will, in order to spread the mysteries revealed to them about Christ and the redemption of mankind. In Ephesians 3:9, the apostle Paul talks about the mysteries of God. What Paul is referring to is the mystery of the 3 earth ages concerning the overthrow of Satan and the redemption of mankind. Paul is revealing these mysteries so that others [the Gentiles] might understand and be fellow heirs and of the same body and partakers of His promise in Christ (Eph. 3:6).
Q. How do we know that our souls existed prior to this present Earth Age?
A. We know because the Bible tells us God foreknew us. "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren." (Rom. 8:29). God could have only previously known us in an age prior to the present age. Because of faithfulness and obedience of these angels in the 1st Earth Age, God made them His Elect. These are His first-fruits. If you have ever wondered why some people seem to be so fortunate while others suffer so dearly, it is not because God arbitrarily decided who would or who would not be blessed. Our fate was determined by the degree of our love and loyalty to God in the 1st Earth Age. Similarly, Satan also has an election.
Q. How do we know our souls pre-existed?
A. Evidence of the existence of the soul prior to its occupation in the flesh body is found in Jeremiah. "Before I formed you in the belly I knew you; and before you camest forth out of the womb I sanctified you, and I ordained you a prophet unto the nations." (Jer. 1:5). How could God have known Jeremiah before he was formed in the womb unless Jeremiah's soul had been in existence before it was placed in his flesh body? Jeremiah's soul, as did your soul, was created by God and pre-existed during the 1st Earth Age.
Q. This sounds very similar to reincarnation. Are you talking about reincarnation?
A. Absolutely not. This is different from the concept of reincarnation, for reincarnation teaches that your soul could come back in the body of an animal, or an insect, or that it could have pre-existed in several different flesh bodies. Furthermore, reincarnation has nothing to do with the redemption of the soul. During the Millennium, we will be in an immortal, incorruptible angelic body that will live on this earth for 1000 years during the Millennium reign of Christ. By the same token also, God is not going to ask us to do anything that He is unwilling to do Himself. Therefore, God Himself came to this earth in a flesh body, known as Jesus. After Jesus was crucified, He arose from the dead. In other-words, His Spirit returned to its Spiritual body, just as your spirit will return to its spiritual body when you die.
Q. What does it mean to be pre-destined?
A. What this means is that the Elect basically do not have free will. Everyone other that the elect have the freedom to chose God as their Father or Satan as their father. God's Elect don't have the choice because they already made that choice. They chose to stand up against Satan in the 1st Earth Age. Therefore, they have already been judged or justified and will not be judged again.
Q. Are there any Scriptures to back up this view that the elect have been already judged?
A. Yes. In Romans, the Scripture tells us the elect have already been justified, and therefore will be spared from having to make the decision a 2nd time. "Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified." (Rom. 8:30). The elect have already been justified by standing up against Satan. Can-Do types!!! They have already been judged and will not be judged again come Judgment Day at the end of the Millennium.
Q. So the elect are "called". Can you give us some examples from the Scriptures of those who are "called"?
A. Yes. The elect are those who are called "according to His purpose" or called to do the Lord's work. God calls out His Elect from the rest of His creation. Jeremiah, the apostle Paul, and Jesus' disciples were all called. Jesus simply called His disciples and they came. Jonah is a prime example of one of God's Elect that did not have free will. Jonah refused to do what God wanted him to do by fleeing in a ship from the area where God wanted him to go. Therefore, God had a whale swallow Jonah until Jonah was willing to do what God wanted him to do. If Jonah had free will, God would not have made him go to Nineveh. Those other than the elect have free will, that is, freedom to choose whether to follow after God of fallow after Satan, because they have yet to prove their loyalty to God.
Q. How many of God's Elect are there?
A. The Scriptures tell us that God has reserved 7000 men that have not bowed their knee to Baal. This is found in 1 Kings 19:18 and Romans 11:4: "But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal." This is prophetic, it has not yet come to pass. We will not bow to antichrist. These are known as the "very elect" as found in Matt. 24:24. "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.". These are teachers, preachers, and "reverends". If you are still in the flesh, he's antichrist, a fake, Because when the true Christ returns, we ALL are turned into our spiritual bodies.
Q. Are these different than the 144,000 who I believe are also part of the elect, is that correct?
A. Yes. The 144,000 are part of the elect but they are not the very elect. The very elect have a special work to do for our Father in the end time.
Q. What is the elect's role in the end time?
A. Satan has been trying to foil God's plan for the salvation of mankind from the beginning but without success. But Satan's fate was sealed when Jesus was crucified, and he is a defeated foe, and his efforts to thwart God's plan shall fail. Satan's last effort shall be in this end time when he sets himself up in the Temple of God claiming to be God "and does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men deceiving the very elect if possible." The elect are the only ones who are not deceived by the antichrist, and because they do not worship the antichrist, they will be delivered up before the antichrist during the antichrist's reign. In this reward, the elect have a very important role to perform for our Father during the antichrist's reign on this earth, for the Scriptures tell us that they will be "delivered up" for a testimony against Satan. "But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them. And the gospel must first be published among all nations. But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Spirit." (Mark 13:11-13). When the Elect are delivered up, they are not suppose to pre-meditate what they will say, for the Holy Spirit will speak through them. Before Christ's return, we just read that the gospel will be published among all nations because they will be speaking not in an unknown tongue, but the voice of many waters, which is the voice of our Father, that everyone will understand in their own language.
Q. Is there any chance that the elect will blow it during this time?
A. There is a chance, but it is highly unlikely. There is only 1 sin that is unforgivable, and that unforgivable sin can only be committed by the elect. That sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. In Luke 12:10-12, the Scriptures read, "And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Spirit it shall not be forgiven. And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say: For the Holy Spirit shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say." Should one of the elect be delivered up before the synagogues of Satan and refuse at all to let the Holy Spirit speak through them, they would be committing blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which will be unforgivable. All other sins can be forgiven except this one. This is the hour of Temptation. We do not find Satan tempting. We find him an abomination! Pentecost tongue spoken at this time only!!! Satan = Death.
Q. When the elect are delivered up and the Holy Spirit begins speaking through them, what happens then?
A. If you can imagine the elect being on trial and all of the scripture lawyers questioning them about the denial of their king, this event will no doubt be broadcast on satellite for all the world to watch. When all of the people in the world hear the Lord speaking though His Elect, the seeds that have been planted in their minds by the elect will sprout, and they will come out of deception. These people who come out of deception are known as the 144,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel.
Q. Is this an exact number?
A. No. The Greek for thousand is khil-ee-as (5505 in the Strongs Concordance), and means "thousands", it is a plural number. There is also a Scripture in Revelation that gives a witness to the fact that there will be more than just 144,000 individuals that are redeemed from the earth. Rev. 5:8-11 reads, "And when He had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. And they sung a new song, saying, "Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for You were slain, and hast redeemed us to God by Your blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth." And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; " Again, this plural word is chillias, the same word used when referring to the 144,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel.
Q. What role do the elect have in the Millennium?
A. The Bible tells us that the only ones who do not follow Satan during the reign of antichrist in the end time are God's Elect. This does not mean that the rest of mankind will be destroyed in the lake of fire. No one will be sentenced to the 2nd death (death of the soul) until the end of Christ's Millennial reign, and the only ones sentenced to die will be those who choose to follow after Satan. However, the only ones allowed in God's Kingdom when it returns to earth during the Millennium are those who did not follow Satan during his rule in this earth age. Satan's delusions will be so strong that even the elect would be deceived if possible. Because they already have been justified, the elect cannot be deceived, and therefore will not be deceived by the antichrist when he comes.
Q. Will the elect have special privileges during the Millennium?
A. The elect are the only ones allowed into God's Kingdom during the Millennium. However, this does not mean that everyone else will not make it into heaven. Everyone else will be in heaven because heaven is here on earth along with God's Kingdom. Those other than the elect will reside in angelic bodies outside of God's Kingdom here on earth. During the Millennium, the elect will receive God's Word directly from God, and will be responsible for taking the Word to those outside of the Kingdom of God who have not had a chance to hear the truth. Those who receive the Word from the elect will then have the opportunity to choose between God or Satan at the end of the Millennium when Satan is loosed for a short season. Those who choose God over Satan will be spared from having their souls destroyed, and then become part of God's Kingdom and will be given eternal life. This is to say that they will be given an immortal soul along with their angelic body. Those who choose to follow Satan will be destroyed along with Satan in the lake of fire on Judgment Day. Judgment Day occurs at the conclusion of the 1000 year Millennium, which is the conclusion of this earth age. Following Judgment Day, the 3rd earth age and and the rest of eternity begin.
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Thursday, November 24, 2011
THOUGHTS ON THANKSGIVING-2011
Thanksgiving means many things to many people.
A time to eat, and gather together with family and friends; watching the parades with their floats, music, and marching bands. And of course, you either hate or love the games we watch on Thanksgiving day!! LOL
It's a time to visit and catch up on what's going on in the lives with family and friends.
Thanksgiving brings out the best in us, because it is a celebration of love and sharing, not gifts bought and exchanged, or completely commercialized as other holidays.
I thank God for all of you, and hope you all have a wonderful day. May Father bless and be with you. Happy Thanksgiving. Carol
A time to eat, and gather together with family and friends; watching the parades with their floats, music, and marching bands. And of course, you either hate or love the games we watch on Thanksgiving day!! LOL
It's a time to visit and catch up on what's going on in the lives with family and friends.
Thanksgiving brings out the best in us, because it is a celebration of love and sharing, not gifts bought and exchanged, or completely commercialized as other holidays.
I thank God for all of you, and hope you all have a wonderful day. May Father bless and be with you. Happy Thanksgiving. Carol
A Thanksgiving wish for all my friends and family. "When you go to count your blessings, each and everyone, and you think your count is finished, God has just begun."
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I am thankful to the Father, He is our past, present, and future. The hardships and trials we have suffered in the past, have given us faith and confidence that with His help, we can deal with what we must face in the present, and ....knowing that on Him we can depend, to overcome whatever our future may hold.
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This is the Blessed Assurance all Christians share, as they celebrate Thanksgiving. We are never alone, so whether alone, or with many friends or family, remember to thank Father for each day, for He is always there. We are never alone, when we just take a moment and turn to Him in Prayer.
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"He knows all our thoughts and needs, and on Him we can depend. He is our Father, our Savior, our greatest friend." Have a blessed and safe Thanksgiving.
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Love and prayers sent your way. Carol K
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I am thankful to the Father, He is our past, present, and future. The hardships and trials we have suffered in the past, have given us faith and confidence that with His help, we can deal with what we must face in the present, and ....knowing that on Him we can depend, to overcome whatever our future may hold.
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This is the Blessed Assurance all Christians share, as they celebrate Thanksgiving. We are never alone, so whether alone, or with many friends or family, remember to thank Father for each day, for He is always there. We are never alone, when we just take a moment and turn to Him in Prayer.
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"He knows all our thoughts and needs, and on Him we can depend. He is our Father, our Savior, our greatest friend." Have a blessed and safe Thanksgiving.
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Love and prayers sent your way. Carol K
Friday, November 18, 2011
FATHER I LOVE YOU
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FATHER, I LOVE YOU
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Father, I love you, Father, I need you,
Father, I want you to stay close to me.
Father, I love you, Father, I need you,
Father, help me share, for others to see.*
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Father, this song, You shared with me,
Is now out, for all to see.
I humbly ask that You may show,
Us the way You'd have us go.
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Not my will, but thy will,
Is the way that we should pray,
And ask for help to keep us on,
The path you've set our way.
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Eph 6:18
Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perserverance and supplication for all saints;
Eph 6:19
And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Eph 6:20
For which I am an ambassador in bonds; therein that I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
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Life, Love, and Memories
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Jesus died to pay the price,
That gave us back eternal life.
So now, life, love, and memory,
The best three things in life are free.
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There is no price on life to pay,
Except you live it, day by day.
It cannot be bought or sold,
Or held by use of force or gold.
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The love, you have, was got by giving,
And memories made, to share, through living.
Our mind fades out "bad times" to give,
"Good times" a second chance to live.
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So do not fear, or dread to be,
This way leads to eternity.
Only through Jesus, will you find,
Your way back to God, and peace of mind.
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FATHER, I LOVE YOU
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Father, I love you, Father, I need you,
Father, I want you to stay close to me.
Father, I love you, Father, I need you,
Father, help me share, for others to see.*
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Father, this song, You shared with me,
Is now out, for all to see.
I humbly ask that You may show,
Us the way You'd have us go.
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Not my will, but thy will,
Is the way that we should pray,
And ask for help to keep us on,
The path you've set our way.
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Eph 6:18
Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perserverance and supplication for all saints;
Eph 6:19
And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Eph 6:20
For which I am an ambassador in bonds; therein that I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
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Life, Love, and Memories
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Jesus died to pay the price,
That gave us back eternal life.
So now, life, love, and memory,
The best three things in life are free.
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There is no price on life to pay,
Except you live it, day by day.
It cannot be bought or sold,
Or held by use of force or gold.
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The love, you have, was got by giving,
And memories made, to share, through living.
Our mind fades out "bad times" to give,
"Good times" a second chance to live.
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So do not fear, or dread to be,
This way leads to eternity.
Only through Jesus, will you find,
Your way back to God, and peace of mind.
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
COMMENT- To A Friend On Dealing With Difficult Family
_______,You are my true family, we are children of our Lord, and as such, He has placed us in some unusual families. Some of our familes are in the spirit of slumber, and they get angry over little things, because they are unable to understand. These cutting comments, you need to let slide off you, like water off a duck's back.
Honey, you have a heart as big as Texas, and as you share your love and understanding with others, they share their love and understanding back with you. Just think," hmmm, guess we'll have to deal with this situation in the millennium," and go on being the person, Father wants you to be.
We are grateful for our families, both physical, and spiritual, so if some are stumbling blocks to you, just remember, you have the lLord, He is working through you, many times in ways you do not know, and as you share your thoughts of hurt and pain with Him, trust Him to know the answers, and just keep following the path He's set for you.
Lots of these trials are really learning experiences, so you may understand and be able to reach out to others who are going through what you are going through, today. Here is a link to one of my "hidey-holes, where I have some notes that you might like to reread(most of them are mostly of Father, not me, I just typed them, but they are all learning experieinces I have shared to help others, also. From there, you can go to other places where His poems, songs, etc. are tucked away.
I ask Father's blessings on you and your family, but you are already blessed, just through the love we all share with Him. (I'll just give you the one address, as it's just a click away, and then you can come "visit" with me anytime you just need to "get away.)http://carolswansonking-notes.blogspot.com/ . Love and prayers sent your way. Carol K
Honey, you have a heart as big as Texas, and as you share your love and understanding with others, they share their love and understanding back with you. Just think," hmmm, guess we'll have to deal with this situation in the millennium," and go on being the person, Father wants you to be.
We are grateful for our families, both physical, and spiritual, so if some are stumbling blocks to you, just remember, you have the lLord, He is working through you, many times in ways you do not know, and as you share your thoughts of hurt and pain with Him, trust Him to know the answers, and just keep following the path He's set for you.
Lots of these trials are really learning experiences, so you may understand and be able to reach out to others who are going through what you are going through, today. Here is a link to one of my "hidey-holes, where I have some notes that you might like to reread(most of them are mostly of Father, not me, I just typed them, but they are all learning experieinces I have shared to help others, also. From there, you can go to other places where His poems, songs, etc. are tucked away.
I ask Father's blessings on you and your family, but you are already blessed, just through the love we all share with Him. (I'll just give you the one address, as it's just a click away, and then you can come "visit" with me anytime you just need to "get away.)http://carolswansonking-notes.blogspot.com/ . Love and prayers sent your way. Carol K
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Tuesday, November 15, 2011
WHEN GROUPS DIVIDE - Comments on Bitterness and Anger
Whatever has been said, we need to let the bitterness and anger go, and start anew. Father knows even our thoughts and is able to forgive us when we ask, so do you think it would be okay if we let His Will become our will, and His Way become our way? Can we forgive and forget the past, and in the spirit of love shown us, also do the same. This is a new day, so let us try to live and think in a better way.
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We must not ask Father for revenge because of a breakup in a group. If you let bitterness in your heart, you will gradually move God out.
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If bitterness is on your mind,
Then love and truth, you will not find."
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This is part of one of the poems He gave me, when I was holding bitterness in my heart against some of my family. It was a seperation between the Father and me, and it wasn't untill I let it go, and let His will become mine, that He was able to work through me again. That was a time of bitterness and tears that stretched out into some very long years. I now do all I can do to keep others from having to go through this experience. We bring troulbles on ourselves if we wish troubles on others
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You can live for yourself, you can share with another,
But if you live for the Lord, than each man is your brother."
( Yes I know, a lot of us are women, but that is just in this age, if you get my drift.)
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Forgiveness and sharing, go hand in hand;
We are all part of the Father's plan.
Some may think we should all one group be,
But each group reaches out to others, differently.
Groups are seperate, and teach in different ways,
But we are still all of the same body; His Will, His Way.
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Just like the leg does not do what the arm does, the body is out of balance if one limb is cast off. Jesus gave us an example through His disciples, for when they went off to teach, they went one or two, but never three, and went off in different directions, reaching out, differently. But they were still one body, although far away, for they belonged to Jesus, and so do we, today.
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Sometimes we have too many leaders and not enough members. Good leaders are also strong leaders, and even though you think everone is getting along, all have different ways of leading. Toes are going to be stepped on in these circumstances. You can be partners with one you truly trust, and you can have others who will be more than williing to volunteer and share, but too many leaders, if they are nautural leaders, can use the group as a stepping stone, for their leadership ablilities will always want to "change and improve" things, as they also want to reach out and help in our Father's work. This is why it is good for some groups to seperate and spread out; the reachout will be so much greater. It is a compliment when good leaders come from a group, and this will really work out for good.
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As you set up the library and replace documents, you are actually going through and sharing a review of all that has been stored away. This gives new members a chance to see the documents, read, and review, as you "renew" the library.
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Put your trust in God, not in fellow man,
Then when they say or you think you can't,
You'll find through God, you can.
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We must not ask Father for revenge because of a breakup in a group. If you let bitterness in your heart, you will gradually move God out.
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If bitterness is on your mind,
Then love and truth, you will not find."
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This is part of one of the poems He gave me, when I was holding bitterness in my heart against some of my family. It was a seperation between the Father and me, and it wasn't untill I let it go, and let His will become mine, that He was able to work through me again. That was a time of bitterness and tears that stretched out into some very long years. I now do all I can do to keep others from having to go through this experience. We bring troulbles on ourselves if we wish troubles on others
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You can live for yourself, you can share with another,
But if you live for the Lord, than each man is your brother."
( Yes I know, a lot of us are women, but that is just in this age, if you get my drift.)
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Forgiveness and sharing, go hand in hand;
We are all part of the Father's plan.
Some may think we should all one group be,
But each group reaches out to others, differently.
Groups are seperate, and teach in different ways,
But we are still all of the same body; His Will, His Way.
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Just like the leg does not do what the arm does, the body is out of balance if one limb is cast off. Jesus gave us an example through His disciples, for when they went off to teach, they went one or two, but never three, and went off in different directions, reaching out, differently. But they were still one body, although far away, for they belonged to Jesus, and so do we, today.
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Sometimes we have too many leaders and not enough members. Good leaders are also strong leaders, and even though you think everone is getting along, all have different ways of leading. Toes are going to be stepped on in these circumstances. You can be partners with one you truly trust, and you can have others who will be more than williing to volunteer and share, but too many leaders, if they are nautural leaders, can use the group as a stepping stone, for their leadership ablilities will always want to "change and improve" things, as they also want to reach out and help in our Father's work. This is why it is good for some groups to seperate and spread out; the reachout will be so much greater. It is a compliment when good leaders come from a group, and this will really work out for good.
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As you set up the library and replace documents, you are actually going through and sharing a review of all that has been stored away. This gives new members a chance to see the documents, read, and review, as you "renew" the library.
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Put your trust in God, not in fellow man,
Then when they say or you think you can't,
You'll find through God, you can.
Wednesday, November 2, 2011
COPY OF A COMMENT IN A NOTE TO A FRIEND-GIVE GOD THE GLORY
I know what you mean, _______, and there are still a lot of things I don't understand and just have to take on faith. I know our Father is real, and will protect His own because of what He has done for me.
In my lifetime(in this age) I have been involved in 4 major automobile accidents and came out without a scratch. Three of my cars were totaled out, and the last one, happened about a month after I started to share these poesm and songs,
I was not paying good attention, and when a car in front of me slowed down to let a car in front of her, turn, I rearended her. I had just slowed down from 60 to 40 because I was almost home and was going to turn, when it happened. So here's the picture. I'm doing 40, she's slowed down to about 15 or 20, I hit her hard, and yet I didn't feel much of an impact. I was shaken emotionally, and got out of the van to see if the driver in front of me was okay, and see how much damage I had done.
Well,_______, there wasn't a dent or scratch on either car!! And if that wasn't enough "proof" for me, I have physical proof, for my front license plate was on her receiver hitch UNDER HER BUMPER, and I now have a clean SQUARE HOLE in my bumper where the license plate USED TO BE!!! There is no physical way this could happen without smashing our fenders for my bumper was HIGHER than her bumper, and there is no earthly way this could happen. But it did. Neither one of us called and reported the accident, for who would believe it?!
We did exchange phone numbers, and I did call her to be sure she was physically okay, but all I wound up doing was getting another set of plates and discovered several days later, that the impact had tore loose two of the holders on my wheel chair lift and it had slid forward, almost into my rear seats, so I had to have it reinstalled and tightened down.
The technician, who is a good Christian friend, just shook his head when I showed him the license plate with the hole in it, and said it had to have been a very hard impact to shake it loose like that. So that is one of my stories. Needless to say, I kept that license plate.
I had been getting discouraged and been having doubts about opening up like this, on the internet with all these poems and songs, and I think it was Father's way of telling me it was Him, not me, and I am the "tool" He is using to reach out and help the elect, in these last days. This may sound strange to you, but that is another story, and He gave me "proof" of that too.
This is why I always say, "Give God The Glory," for this is of Him, and not of me. Why am I writing all this to you? I have no idea. I just try to follow where He leads me, praying that this is His will, and not mine.
Love and prayers sent your way, Carol K
In my lifetime(in this age) I have been involved in 4 major automobile accidents and came out without a scratch. Three of my cars were totaled out, and the last one, happened about a month after I started to share these poesm and songs,
I was not paying good attention, and when a car in front of me slowed down to let a car in front of her, turn, I rearended her. I had just slowed down from 60 to 40 because I was almost home and was going to turn, when it happened. So here's the picture. I'm doing 40, she's slowed down to about 15 or 20, I hit her hard, and yet I didn't feel much of an impact. I was shaken emotionally, and got out of the van to see if the driver in front of me was okay, and see how much damage I had done.
Well,_______, there wasn't a dent or scratch on either car!! And if that wasn't enough "proof" for me, I have physical proof, for my front license plate was on her receiver hitch UNDER HER BUMPER, and I now have a clean SQUARE HOLE in my bumper where the license plate USED TO BE!!! There is no physical way this could happen without smashing our fenders for my bumper was HIGHER than her bumper, and there is no earthly way this could happen. But it did. Neither one of us called and reported the accident, for who would believe it?!
We did exchange phone numbers, and I did call her to be sure she was physically okay, but all I wound up doing was getting another set of plates and discovered several days later, that the impact had tore loose two of the holders on my wheel chair lift and it had slid forward, almost into my rear seats, so I had to have it reinstalled and tightened down.
The technician, who is a good Christian friend, just shook his head when I showed him the license plate with the hole in it, and said it had to have been a very hard impact to shake it loose like that. So that is one of my stories. Needless to say, I kept that license plate.
I had been getting discouraged and been having doubts about opening up like this, on the internet with all these poems and songs, and I think it was Father's way of telling me it was Him, not me, and I am the "tool" He is using to reach out and help the elect, in these last days. This may sound strange to you, but that is another story, and He gave me "proof" of that too.
This is why I always say, "Give God The Glory," for this is of Him, and not of me. Why am I writing all this to you? I have no idea. I just try to follow where He leads me, praying that this is His will, and not mine.
Love and prayers sent your way, Carol K
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